During the winter 1989, the Swedish Death Metal act NIHILIST pioneers,
waste away of the end of prestigious years of glory, devouring,breaking
carcass, strip the franges of the mind on a large incalculable numbers of
concerts as many video bootlegs proves it well. Inflexible a failure, an
impetuous excitement broke the rock in two parts with the nucleus of the
band forming the great ENTOMBED and on the other side of the cosmic tree,
the viking warrior aka Johnny Hedlund spawned to mighty UNLEASHED.
Animated by an uncontrollable rage,they recorded two cult demos ' The Utter
Dark ' and '...Revenge ',3000 copies got sold within 6 months.In admiration
for the bold work of NIHILIST,I was determinated to get the first one because
my friend Yann from Necrobestiality zine had already interviewed Johnny
right after that.Being a humble person in respect,he took care to order 10
copies seing the huge sucess it had to his radio show and also since the
publication of his interview.Obviously Johnny has commited to do it in a brief
delay,I would even say he was more faster than Speedy Gonzales,fire in the
ass!!!.It is certain that another motherfucker should have been inspired by
him....Watching the beautiful prey on some mailorder-list,I stole some money
to my dear parents to buy the two 7's but in hindsight, I have no remorse...
So,it should be noted that their discography is very eclectic over time while
remaining TRUE!!!Well after having interviewed TIAMAT, David with
always accompanied of Franck Interiewed intelligent Johnny for
a long relaxation time, talking and dealing with various social issue, very
interesting for ignorants...
David - How did you find audience tonight?
I think they were amazing.I really enjoyed it,yes,finally,absolutely.
Franck : Do you always play ' Countess Bathory ' from Venom?
Sometime yes and sometime no,it depends.Sometime we taste to do it
so and so and then we do it .So it does not happen at all concerts,l say
we play it in 75% of cases.
David : Do not you think that the concert was too short?
Ya!We could have played a little longer,maybe,I guess.But again,I don't
know,maybe could we play one or two songs from the latest release but
I don't know since how much time the 3rd album is out,then we calculated
that it was to keep this set a little shorter,and maybe around April or May
the next year when we will do a new tour including the France,Germany
and all these countries.That is why we do this concert shorter now.
David : If you come back for a next tour,with which bands will you play?
I think that we will headline next time .That's what we usually do.The
reason why we play in second position on this bill is because MORGOTH
is a bit bigger in Germany.And that is why it's like that.Then,we go in the
States around January and after that we will see if we can do another
european tour...who should go over from France too.
Franck : Your favourites Death Metal bands?
I would say MORBID ANGEL,NECROPHOBIC,i don't know if you count
them as Death Metal but TIAMAT is really good,although this is not really
a Death Metal band. I don't know ,there a lot of pretty good bands.
OBITUARY,you know,I could tell you tons...PARADISE LOST are GREAT!!!!
Franck : You seemto be intesrested in Nordic Mythology.Can you tell us
Well,to begin with, it's because we come from Scandinavia.And in
Scandinavia,the viking religion was very important a thousand
years ago.You know,they are our ancestors,this is the place where we
come from.And for us,it's very interesting.Writting lyrics based on history
and a religion which was so strong a long time ago is really important for
us.We didn’t want to be involved with any religion.We do not believe in
physical gods or something like that but we believe in symbols.The
symbols are supposed to stay,even thousand years later.But the symbols
like for example this one,Hammer of Thor (he shows us the necklace),it
still means many things for us.This for example meanfor me power and
strength. It mean that I am a man of promise,I stand at what say and I will
fight if someone attacks me,and i dont lie to people,it means that I am a
right person,you see.And you always can trust symbols today,even if we
are in 1993.And there are thousand years old, back then the people had the
same kind of convictions. But of course, at this time,the people wasn't
also intelligent.The people are a bit more distinguished now,obviously
but you know,the symbols are always here.
Franck : Can you say that it is a search for identity?
Absoluty,yes...It's an identity,look at this,you see (He show us his I.D.)
David : You feel like a Viking?
Yes,of course,i come from Sweden.I think that for all the people,no matter
whether you are in France, Turkey, Germany,Sweden or England,it is
important to save his beliefs.And hold,because if you know where you
come from,it is easier to understand the others instead of telling them
they are stupid because they act a certain way.But if you have strongly
faith in you ,it does not need to be into a religion,it must simply be an idea
convinced of its belief,if you have a belief and a strong identity,it is
more easy to my opinion to deal to people who actually understand.You
see,if you talk for example of something that comes from France,it wil
be more fun and more interesting to exchange our ideas.When I come
to France,I want to see the French architecture ,so I could talk about MY
history.I think that it is important.
Franck : The “Mc Donald” society version does not suit you?
I....Mac Donald doesn't nothing mean anything for me,it's just a piece
Franck : It’s the symbol of the American way of life.
Well,it does not always say something for me.I think that the
american way of life comes by looking at the indians and that's all.
Franck : If I understand you, you mean the true american?
Correct!So I dont really pay a lot of attention to Mac Donald,and even
not at all.Its just a piece of shit,really.Sometimes I’ve tried but it's not
food.It's something to put in your stomach so you’re no longer hungry,
but there was no taste.It's just my opinion.I am not saying that people
are stupid if they will eat there.I say it’s no real culture,there
is no special feelings.
David : But you do not like the taste of hamburgers?
No i am vegetarian.I eat vegetarian burgers.My fave food, that I also
cook at home,one that is made by myself,that’s the taste,with much
vitamin and stuff.So you see,chips and hamburgers mean nothing to
me.When you are on tour,you must eat sometimes because u don't have
much time and because the place where the bus stops is the place where
you eat.Then from time and time you must eat ,but it is not at all
something i'm looking for.
Franck : UNLEASHED has a inverted cross in the logo.So inverted
crosses seem to be a satanic symbol.As far I know Satan is one part
of the Christianimagination.If you are not Christian,such a symbol no
longer has its purposebecause there is no reason one believes it’s real.
I understand what you say.The only one reason we have this inverted
cross is because of that : The only other way means Jesus Christ and
mean that you have a master.If you put this cross upside down,that
means : no leader.I don't need a master because I am a free person.
And now the cross means anti-christ,yes,it would mean anti-god,
anti-master.I do not really care whether it comes from Jesus or Allah
or any other fuckin" god,it simply means that I have anyone above
me,I'm free.I don't need someone to tell me what I have to do.I have
the freedom to decide for myself.This is what the cross means,because
we turn this upside down command.
Franck : It is not satanic worship.
Well...NO.You see,if you have the satanic bible,you need to know
that Satan is the god of nature,everything human natural attitude
are Satan.But I am not a satanist,no I am a swedish viking.I don't
need to be a demon or anything.I do not care about that,i want to
be a man.
Franck : In our area,some people claim their attachment to Celtic
belief.You understand them?
Definitely.YES!Of course they should be proud and should find out
what happened in their history.I think that its really important.It
means that you have pride,you come from somewhere,you have
a strong identity.And then,it will be more easier to understand
others by sharing ideas,talking about different things...it's interesting.
Franck : Identity means of existence?
Franck : The future therefore proceeds to the past?
Exact! We feel the same way.
David : To return to the vegetarian food,is it because of the disgust
of seeing animals killed?
No.This is not an argument.I would find it natural to kill animals if I
knew they were not tortured.You understand what I say?.It's normal
a natural to kill animals,man have eaten animals since the dawn of
time,there is nothing wrong in that.But I think it's wrong to grow
chickens that has a size no bigger than a magazine and put things
that they grow in simply intention to get more meat and more money.
I think its negative,that is why i don't eat animals.But if I know the farm,
cows pigs and everything you’d want to live a life of cow before death
so you don't see a problems eating them.For instance : at Christmas,
in Sweden,we eat ham and there was ten years,this ham had a ham
taste.It was good and and it was a lot of taste.But today,if you eat of
ham,it doesn’t really taste good.And why?Yes because of the fact that
these animals have a much shorter life now because the only one thing
who interest the people is to grow the pigs,to make them grow very
large,kill them and put them in shops.You know,I don't think that we are
supposed to hurt the animals in this way,I just don't think it's human.
There are imperative that.I we cannot treat animals well,how we will
treat us properly?But there is nothing wrong eating meat,I think that
ethics is not as bad.Otherwise,treat animals like commodities,as objects
that’s the only things against I protest.
Franck : Talk about something else.How do you see UNLEASHED future?
It’s very good! However,its the first time we play in France.So I hope that
we can go back more often because when we play in Germany or the States,
it's a bit different.We are of course bigger down there because its the first
time that we come in France.Soon we will start our third american tour and
after we will proprably do another european tour.And after we will record
our fourth album.And I would say that the future looks so welcoming
because everywhere we go people seem to be really getting in our music,
audience reactions are great everywhere and i am very pleased about it.
And more importantly, we are starting to make money on the tour so when
we’re back at home,we can pay our appartment,our phone bills and all that.
Franck : And you can live of your music?
YES!Now we can,yes.It wasn't possible before but now we have a good
manager.It's the same management as MORBID ANGEL,he does an
important job and efficient for us.So it’s better now.
Franck : You need a job?
David : are you still friends with ENTOMBED?
David : Your opinion on ' Wolverine blues ' ?
Hum..I prefer the older albums.I don't know why they don’t do that that
much.Maybe they couldn't take the competition,maybe they try to be in
a different path,I don't know.I have not asked about it but each one must
decide which way to go.UNLEASHED for example is a Death Metal band
with a wide variety and we will stay that way.
David : You prefer the first ENTOMBED or the first UNLEASHED?
Well,of course,I prefer my album AH AH!
David : Me too.
Franck : ENTOMBED is more Hardcore than back then....
Well,its strange,you see,because during the last european and
american tours,we had twice as many people than ENTOMBED to
each concerts.So when we are there,in France,they say to me 'Oh "!
If you want to be as big than ENTOMBED,well...They may be bigger
here,I don't know,but in the rest of Europe and the states,we have
twice more people to concerts,so it's really funny.Maybe due to the
fact we played in Paris two years ago and the only thing we have never
made in France.
Franck : There were many people in Paris?
In this concert?we play now?
Franck : Hum...Yes.
Ah hum....I don't know,Maybe 500,I am not sure.
David : And two years ago,How much were there?
I think that we played two concerts during two nights in Paris
and I think there was 600 to each concert.So it's really good,
but it was two years ago.That is why we wanted to do this french
tour now and play in 5 or 6 cities.
David : Do you like bus tours ?
The bus that we use here are not the best.Usually we have fun,I
really enjoy the tours.I did not have much time for me,but it's
worth it because you can meet with the crowd everydays and see
their reactions,that is why we play.That is why we have fun that
much.Indeed I hate these big barriers, I want to have a closer
contact with the audience,but the security point of view,it is true
that one can't remove them.But difinitely,I love going on tour!
David : And slam,pogo and mosh?
I don't think it belongs to Death Metal,to be honest.I think that Death
Metal is made of wild headbanging and it's my point of view.I think the
slam...you mean ' Stage Diving '?.I think it belongs more to Hardcore,you
see,ANTHRAX,PANTERA and all what you want. But if people feel good in
slamming ,they can do it as long as they do not hit the microphone,
because if I take in the face,my teeth will fall HA HA HA!
Franck : Do you think it is difficult to have a family life when you're on
tour?Do you have a wife and children?
No it is not difficult.I have a little girlfriend.But...being on tour is like
being very wild.It's nice to have something to do cos when you go back
home you’re looking for for something a little more quiet,a quiet life.But
at this time,I drink more.I cannot drink too much on tour because I want
to keep my lyrics,you see,i want to remember everything.So,I drink more
when I am at my home and I try to be more clean when I'm on tour.I
reserve for the time I go on stage,at that time I put on the maximum.
I try to.
David : Its is true that alcohol is expensive in Sweden?
Beers?Sweden?YES!it's a bit more expensive than here.
Franck : In fact did you play in another band before UNLEASHED?
David : ENTOMBED?
NO! that was the same members but I played in band called NIHILIST.
But I have never been in ENTOMBED.NIHILIST was pre ENTOMBED.
So with NIHILIST.YES!
David : Is there a kind of music that you hate?
No,we made some demos and I love them forever.YEAH!!!
David : Hey!this is not i wanted to know, I mean my question was : Is
there a style of music that you don't like?
Ha!Yes of course,but we must make a clear distinction.I don't hate
the people who listen to this music but for example,I don't listen Rap
music,I don't like also Disco music,I don't like all this kind of...What's
it called,Rave bullshit,I live nothing in this style and I am not so much
into Jazz and....you see? But when it's rock'n'roll,it's really amazing!!!
Franck : Would you like to have keyboards or piano in your songs?
Definitely not.UNLEASHED is a band with two guitars, bass, drums
and a vocalist,that’s all,nothing more.
Franck :And what do you think of Doom bands like PARADISE LOST?
Well,for them,that's ok!TIAMAT has synth and it sounds good for their
music but we play raw Death Metal and I don’t think that this sort of
instruments belong to us.Some bands use them really well,it suits
them but it's just that we wouldn't like that into our stuff.But yes!
PARADISE LOST are great,i love their music,good band,definitely.
David : Which bands do you like on stage?
SAMAEL are really good,BOLT THROWER : good stage performance,
OBITUARY,CANNIBAL CORPSE.There are many bands of Heavy Metal
that I like to see on stage,AC/DC and bands like that.
David :Old Thrash Metal bands like SLAYER,EXODUS,METALLICA too?
I like them very much.I love the first album of EXODUS.But SLAYER
are excellent,they are obviously one of our greatest influence,of
course.METALLICA too.Their last release?I think that it's ok!I don't
like it but it's ok!I was expecting some development of their part .
Because they are into scene for so long and I think they just wanted
to get closer to Heavy Metal bands and put Thrash Metal on hold for a
moment.But you know,I can't really get used to it,that's good but I
prefer ' Ride The Lightning ',' Master Of Puppets ' and ' Kill 'Em All '.
These ones were my favourite albums.
Franck : do you consider yourself to be influenced by seventies bands
like AC/DC,MC5,JIMMI HENDRIX or MOTORHEAD?
For AC/DC and MOTORHEAD yes but not for the riffing,for structures
and things like that,definitely.I am not at all attracted by JIMMY
HENDRIX’s music personally but our guitarist like him a lot,so I don't
know,each his own.It's very different from one person to another.
David : Do you always reply to letters from fanzines?
I do it but it takes time.The problem is that I am on tour
five months a year and we record albums all year and
there is so much to do.If people send I.R.Cs,I reply but I can't
say that I would answer to them in the next two months,
I don’t know ,it can take 6 months,but I reply each time.
Franck : Where can we find your merchandising?
Our only Merchandising available right now is what we bring
on tour.The record company has also a lot of stuff but the one
we love to sale is the one on tour. I don't know,maybe some shops
Franck : Do you win a bit of money on merchandising?
Yes we get money on what we sell on tour.If you can buy
UNLEASHED tee-shirts in a shop,the record reaches the largest
percentage on the price.That is why we try to bring this on tour
because that is with that that we live.You know,we have to pay
invoices when they arrive at home HA HA!
Franck & David : Alright,I think that's it.
OK!Thanks you very much.Nice talking to you!!!
Interview Done By David & Franck Appeared For Mystifier Zine(R.I.P)
Thanks So Much Bloodbrothers.U rules!!!
Preface Have Been Modified By Kanz-Noz.
Two Picrures From This Gig Taken By Kanz-Noz.